（以下引用） Alex Gibney: My dad’s experience was exactly like that. In fact, I was reading some of his memoirs recently. I have his interrogation logs. He interrogated a fairly senior guy in Okinawa, Colonel Yahara. He developed a pretty good rapport with him and got a lot of good information. But at some point, Yahara turned to my father when he was interrogating him and said, “Gibney-san, you really should be a little more careful.” And he described the trip they had just taken together in a Jeep. He said, “Your sidearm was right there, I could have taken it from you, knocked you flat and run off, gone back to my lines. You really have to be more careful.” [Laughs] My father thought, “What kind of a soldier am I?” But it also testified to the fact that they had already developed a kind of rapport that got a lot more out of him than waterboarding.